1 1 2 EMRE - ILEU 3 4 Collective Bargaining Agreement Negotiations 5 Wednesday, April 28, 2021 Commencing at 9:05 a.m. 6 7 HELD REMOTELY VIA ZOOM 8 --- Day 54 --- 9 P R E S E N T: 10 EXXONMOBIL RESEARCH AND ENGINEERING COMPANY: 11 JEFFELEE McCLAIN, CLINTON SITE HR MANAGER 12 JOSH BRYANT, CLINTON SITE LABOR ADVISOR YUK LOUIE, R&D OPERATIONS MANAGER 13 INDEPENDENT LABORATORY EMPLOYEES' UNION: 14 STEVEN RAGOMO, PRESIDENT 15 THOMAS FREDRIKSEN, VICE PRESIDENT ETHAN SEBASCO, SECRETARY 16 THOMAS FERRO, TREASURER DAVID LEBRON, ACT DELEGATE 17 MICHAEL MOLINA, PO&T DELEGATE PAUL MADIARA, DELEGATE 18 MICHAEL STRASSER, CSR STEWARD 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 2 1 MS. McCLAIN: Welcome everybody. 2 MR. RAGOMO: Good morning. 3 MS. McCLAIN: Good morning. So 4 welcome, everybody. Thanks again for the time. I 5 appreciate everyone getting together to talk through 6 bargaining. You know we have been together now, 7 this is our 53rd meeting; is that right? 8 MR. BRYANT: 54th. 9 MS. McCLAIN: Sorry. 54th. 10 MR. BRYANT: Formal session. We have 11 had others. 12 MS. McCLAIN: Yes. And our first 13 all-day session in a long time. So I appreciate you 14 guys dedicating a full day to this, and I know you 15 have been ready and available, and glad we can make 16 this work. 17 So, I know we have some outstanding 18 information requests. We can go over that, if that 19 is okay with you guys. 20 MR. RAGOMO: Sure. If you want to just 21 start there, I think that is good. And I would just 22 like to also thank you on the Company side for 23 coming back together with us. And as Josh said, 24 this is 54th formal, and I am sure it is at least 60 25 total with formal and informal type of sessions. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 3 1 And again, it is one where I am going to ask the 2 Company to try and bring the rationale as to why we 3 wouldn't want to have a mediator. We have been 4 going for so long. We are willing to do that, and I 5 don't understand the apprehension on the Company's 6 side if we have been going for so long and so many 7 sessions that I believe it would behoove both sides 8 to agree to have a mediator come in and try and help 9 us through this, because we are not serving either 10 side by continually doing this and being where we 11 are and not being able to come to some type of 12 agreement. 13 I am, again, requesting that the 14 Company agree to having a mediator to help us 15 through this. 16 MS. McCLAIN: I fully hear what you are 17 saying, Steve. We will think about it and take it 18 under consideration when we talk with our team. 19 MR. RAGOMO: Thank you. 20 MS. McCLAIN: Anybody else before we... 21 MR. RAGOMO: I think the floor is 22 yours. 23 MS. McCLAIN: Josh, do you want to send 24 over the information requests? 25 (Discussion off the record.) Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 4 1 MS. McCLAIN: Tom, this includes the 2 questions that you sent over on April 16, which 3 included a few new questions, and then some 4 follow-ups from our meeting that week. 5 On the first one, Bob Gillespie retired 6 on or about March 30. Who is currently performing 7 this work? When is the Company planning to hire an 8 employee into this vacancy? 9 And the response is: Mr. Gillespie was 10 a Senior Mechanic supporting the Lab Demand Support 11 Team, and the Company has backfilled him with an EII 12 contractor, and this is consistent with the 13 implemented contracting outside letter. 14 Number 2. As previously discussed in 15 past sessions, Dan Moller retired from the 16 Wastewater Treatment Facility. The ILEU was told 17 that at the time that an employee would be hired to 18 fill his position. Who is currently performing the 19 work? And when is the Company planning to hire an 20 employee into this vacancy? 21 The Company response is: Prior to his 22 retirement, Mr. Moller was assigned as a Senior 23 Research Technician 5 in the Wastewater Treatment 24 Plant. Following his retirement, Don Craigle, 25 Wastewater Treatment Operator assumed the Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 5 1 responsibility Mr. Moller had. Given the needs in 2 the Wastewater Treatment Plant, the Company intends 3 to hire another Wastewater Treatment Operator. The 4 job was posted in early 2020, but was put on hold 5 due to the pandemic and we are resuming the hiring 6 process in the near future. 7 Number 3. The Company response for 8 Question No. 8 was that Rally could be completed 9 from a non-Company device. In the event an employee 10 doesn't have access to a smart device with which to 11 access either the app or the website, is the Company 12 making accommodations for the employee to receive 13 the discount? 14 Company response: If an employee 15 believes that they may be unable to meet the 16 standards for a reward under the Wellness Program, 17 they might qualify for an opportunity to earn the 18 same reward by different means. And they should 19 contact the HR Health and Wellness Team at 20 HR.Health.Welfare@ExxonMobil.com, and they will work 21 with any employee. And if they wish, their doctor 22 to find a wellness program activity with the same 23 reward that is right for them in light of their 24 health status. 25 So we talked about this at the last Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 6 1 meeting and, you know, they can -- any employee that 2 is having problems or with access or issues with 3 participating, they can work with health and welfare 4 benefits in HR and try to find an alternative that 5 works for them. 6 Number 4. In the past when the 7 biometric screening was in place, employees had an 8 opportunity to use their personal doctor to complete 9 the requirement. Even though it is not being 10 offered on-site, are employees still able to get a 11 biometric screening to fulfill the requirement at 12 the discounted rate? 13 And the Company response is: No. 14 Employees may not get the biometric screening to get 15 the Culture of Health rate for 2022. There is an 16 FAQ out there, Question No. 12, on the Culture of 17 Health, Frequently Asked Questions. And we have 18 provided the link there. 19 However, if the employee is enrolled in 20 one of the medical plan options, they can always 21 schedule an annual checkup with their doctor. And, 22 you know, preventative services like a biometric 23 screen is always covered. But if they need to find 24 an alternative to one of the -- I am just expanding 25 on this. If they need to find an alternative, they Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 7 1 need to talk with Health and Welfare Benefits about 2 their needs by Answer No. 3. 3 Number 5. The ILEU asked in the past 4 when the Company would perform a formal reassessment 5 of the Savings Plan Match being reinstated. The 6 Company said that it had not made any assessments, 7 nor had decided on a date by which it would assess. 8 The ILEU is repeating the request. Has the Company 9 performed any reassessment of the status or fate of 10 the Savings Plan Match, and if so, what was the 11 result? 12 The Company's response is that: The 13 Company has not performed a reassessment of the 14 Savings Plan Match and no date has been set to 15 conduct that reassessment. 16 Number 6. Has the Company performed or 17 participated in or received the results in any wage 18 survey regarding represented positions for the years 19 2020 or 2021? 20 The Company response is: The Company 21 participated in the Willis Towers Watson Wage Survey 22 in 2020. 23 Number 7. As a reminder, we are still 24 awaiting a full or revised response to Question 10. 25 The Company has stated to the Union that LPO is a Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 8 1 requirement. When did the Company make this a 2 requirement? How has this change been communicated 3 to the Union from the past request? 4 Company response: Safety is part of 5 everybody's job. One of the Company's select few 6 core Company principles is that nobody gets hurt. 7 The Company believes that all accidents are 8 preventable and, you know, we can achieve an 9 accident free work environment. 10 LPS is a proven safety program and is 11 not materially different from any of our previous 12 safety processes, except that, of course, LPS-1 13 provides more structure to things that are already 14 done; and two, systematically ensures continuous 15 review and improvement; and three, it digs deeper 16 and more quickly to determine the root causes before 17 they escalate. 18 As part of LPS, and LPO is the tool for 19 observing work processes to determine if the process 20 is being performed according to the Company's safety 21 standards. Employees help determine target job 22 tasks, participate in LPO processes, and help 23 identify solutions that will resolve potential 24 losses. That process and standards to be followed 25 and observed are not new under LPS. We have always Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 9 1 had that. What is new is that the focus of an LPO 2 is on the work task and not the individual. 3 We are not aware of any threats to 4 employees with regard to LPOs or any tools related 5 to LPS. However, the LPS is the system that the 6 Company uses to assess its safety processes. And if 7 an employee or employees are uncomfortable with 8 performing the LPS tools or other job-related 9 duties, we are willing to provide additional 10 training to those employees. Performing work 11 properly is an expectation of everyone, which 12 includes participation in LPS. 13 If management determines that an 14 employee is trained and qualified to perform a task 15 related to their job duties, the employee is 16 expected to perform the task. And if adequately 17 trained and qualified, employee fails to perform the 18 task required by supervisor. In any aspect related 19 to the job duties, the employee is subject to 20 disciplinary action under the articles that we have 21 there. 22 So that is the updated response. 23 Number 8. What is the full company/MOH 24 procedure for clearing an employee for work? This 25 was Question 4 of the ILEU's April 9th info request. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 10 1 And how Company response is: The MOH 2 personnel considers an employee's prevailing medical 3 condition and any limitations presented thereby as 4 identified by the employee's healthcare provider, in 5 light of their job duties, their schedule, their 6 work location, and any other information that is 7 relevant to assess whether or an employee is fit for 8 duty. The employee is expected to fully cooperate 9 with MOH in obtaining all relevant medical 10 information and to otherwise respond to MOH requests 11 for information that might be necessary to ensure a 12 comprehensive assessment of fitness for duty. 13 Number 9. The Union is requesting site 14 walkthrough logs for security for the past 30 days. 15 This was Question 6 on the ILEU's April 9th 16 information request. 17 The Company response: The LSSC 18 performs their tours, but does not maintain 19 walkthrough logs. The LSSC team doesn't follow a 20 specific route, as they don't want their route to 21 become predictable, so they change it up. 22 The intent is to hit the major areas at 23 least once on each tour. The tour is not intended 24 to discover individuals working alone. However, if 25 the LSSC team discovers anything that looks out of Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 11 1 place or unsafe, they report the condition to the 2 ERT, Emergency Response Team, and if able, make the 3 scene safe or barricade it. 4 If they discover an MSA alarm, they can 5 enter the control room for a conversation, but they 6 do not enter the environment, nor interact with 7 equipment or controls. 8 Number 10. What, if anything, has 9 ExxonMobil filed with the State of New Jersey and/or 10 OSHA with regards to the working off hours/working 11 alone, operation safety and shutdown procedure as it 12 pertains to the boiler room. This was a question 13 e-mailed separately to the Company. 14 The Company response: The Company has 15 not filed or communicated anything to the State of 16 New Jersey or OSHA regarding the working off 17 hours/working alone and/or operation safety and 18 shutdown procedure as it pertains to the boiler 19 room. To my knowledge, there is no regulation 20 requiring the Company to provide such information to 21 the State or OSHA. 22 So those are our responses. I am sure 23 you are going to need time to think and ask 24 questions. 25 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Yes, I think we are Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 12 1 going to need to take some time to review this. 2 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. Do you want to 3 take time now or do you want us to move on? We are 4 fine with moving on. 5 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Steve? 6 MR. RAGOMO: I think we can move on. I 7 would like to have an opportunity to go through that 8 a little closer, JeffeLee, if you don't mind. 9 MS. McCLAIN: Not a problem. 10 MR. RAGOMO: Appreciated. Thank you. 11 Greatly appreciated. Thank you. 12 MS. McCLAIN: Let me make sure 13 everybody has everything. 14 A couple of things I wanted to share 15 before we send over a document to you guys for our 16 discussion today. We have had a lot of discussions, 17 you know, in the last couple months regarding the 18 Union's proposals. You know, and last time we had a 19 couple more questions and we appreciated your 20 responses with regard to the Savings Plan and the 21 other proposals that you had on the table. 22 We will bringing forward a 23 comprehensive proposal today with an addition and 24 change to contracting out and economics. And Josh 25 will send that over. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 13 1 You know, like I said, we have been 2 thinking over the Union's proposals and, you know, 3 again, in general, the proposals still, you know, do 4 not quite meet the Company's needs. Before I read, 5 you know, the proposal into the record, I just want 6 to frame the discussion. I want to remind us, 7 right, that we are experiencing unprecedented market 8 conditions resulting from COVID-19 pandemic. 9 Accelerated, you know that, had the Company really 10 take a look at our work processes or organizational 11 makeup and, you know, accelerated some ongoing 12 studies and changes that we want to improve the 13 Company's, you know, long-term competitiveness and 14 our ability to be flexible and manage, you know, 15 challenges. 16 You know, 2020, we all saw a lot of, 17 you know, action by the Company. You know, and 18 reaction to the Company, by the Company to the 19 challenging environment. And, you know, we did 20 those things while remaining flexible and 21 positioning us hopefully for recovery. You know, 22 and building on all of the things that we did last 23 year, we are really focusing on, you know, 24 maintaining significant flexibility to adjust to 25 market condition. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 14 1 So, you know, I really appreciate the 2 Union direction of the Company-challenged position 3 in the proposals that you brought forward and the 4 conversations that we had. And the recognition that 5 since bargaining began, the business environment 6 hasn't improved. So this is -- I just wanted to 7 take the time to recognize that. 8 You know, and in Clinton, we would just 9 have to do on our part to ensure that we are 10 effective and efficient in our operation. And, you 11 know, bargaining is the time for the Company and the 12 ILEU to make adjustments that we need, you know, 13 that we need. And up-to-date, you know, we have 14 been at logger heads on a few key issues. We just 15 haven't been able to find common ground. 16 And, you know, we continuously look at 17 our proposals and we have reviewed them and we have 18 re-reviewed them to ensure that any changes during 19 bargaining still address the Company's needs. And 20 as our needs evolve, there might need to be changes. 21 You know, and we have stated that with the 22 outstanding issues that we still have. You know, we 23 are evaluating our proposals to meet, you know, our 24 intent to deliver. You know, we talked about 25 immediate cost savings and, you know, future Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 15 1 financial obligation, you know, maintaining 2 uniformity of benefits, but most importantly 3 providing flexibility to run our business and 4 clarity around, you know, how we utilize contractors 5 at the Clinton site. And you know, working together 6 on a go-forward agreement. 7 So, you know, I just wanted to remind 8 us about what -- you know, where we are and what the 9 Company's intent is and what our key focuses are, 10 which is flexibility and clarity, and that really 11 hasn't changed since bargaining started in 2018. 12 But like I said, you will see some changes proposed 13 to those two proposals. 14 So Josh, if you want to send over the 15 proposal. 16 MR. BRYANT: Yes. I will send it over 17 right now. 18 (Discussion off the record.) 19 MS. McCLAIN: So this proposal is the 20 Company Proposal dated April 28, 2021. The last 21 counterproposal that you provided was on March 10, 22 and the Savings Plan proposal you gave us on March 23 30. You know, in addition to all of the previous 24 tentative agreements, I apologize -- this says the 25 Union counters with the following package. That is Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 16 1 incorrect. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: It also says March 10, 3 2020 at the top. 4 MR. BRYANT: I will resend that over 5 with the correct -- 6 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. 7 So the -- I will read that again. "In 8 addition to all previous tentative agreements, the 9 Company proposes the following package:" 10 Like I said, we have been talking about 11 United Way. This proposal has no changes to what we 12 have previously provided regarding the United Way 13 Day Off. So the proposal remains the same and 14 remains implemented. 15 On B, which is C1 here, we have had 16 tentative agreement since March 14 of 2019. There 17 is no change to C1, which was the 12-hour shift 18 language. 19 On C5, for Auto Mechanics, the Company 20 maintains that. You know, we have talked about the 21 three levels and making sure that we address the 22 appropriate experience and career development 23 opportunities for the Auto Mechanics and still 24 believe that three levels are warranted here. So 25 you see that remains the same. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 17 1 For C2, there is a change to C2, an add 2 to the language that we have previously proposed and 3 implemented. 4 Before we get into the language itself, 5 I just want to remind us that we do have some 6 similar objectives when it comes to contracting out. 7 We are not looking to change the bargaining unit's 8 scope. We are not looking, you know, to do that 9 ever since we started bargaining. What we want is 10 flexibility. And flexibility to have a positive 11 impact for the longevity of the site, which is 12 efficient operations and, you know, hopefully making 13 sure that will our operations are at such a good 14 point that we, you know, we are considered for 15 future investments in Clinton. But we also want 16 clarity around how contractors can be used. 17 The updated -- the add, the addition of 18 this language, which is a second paragraph was added 19 here, meets those objectives and provides greater 20 clarity, right, on how we are performing work 21 outside of Clinton. You know, when we looked at 22 this, again, we just wanted to make sure, because we 23 have said we want this proposal to be the 24 comprehensive understanding between the Company and 25 ILEU as to how we use contractors at the Clinton Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 18 1 site and the rights that we have as the Company, and 2 so we wanted make sure that that was reflected here. 3 So the proposal reads that "The Company 4 proposes the following side agreement regarding 5 contracting: 6 "The Company may, across all job 7 families, utilize contractors to staff relative to 8 projects, work fluctuations, and other short term 9 and discreet business needs. For the duration of 10 this agreement, the Company may also continue any 11 contracting of work and/or positions done prior to 12 the date of this letter and the Company is not 13 obligated during the term of this side agreement to 14 replace those contractors with employees. The 15 Company may contract any job families for which it 16 has proposed to permanently contract, without 17 objection from the Union for the length of this side 18 agreement. 19 "Those job families are Mechanics, 20 Material and Services Coordinator, Maintenance and 21 Operations, Audio Visual, Graphics Design, Senior 22 Repro Tech, Repro Services Tech Assistant, Services 23 Trainee, Senior Admin. Tech, and Admin. Tech. 24 Assistant. 25 "All employees currently in these Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 19 1 positions will remain in their jobs until they 2 retire, are promoted, are terminated according to 3 the provisions of Article XXVI or XXVII, or leave on 4 their own accord. The provisions of Article XVIII 5 Pertaining to demotions, layoffs, repromotions and 6 recalling of employees remain in effect." 7 So there is no change to that first 8 paragraph from what the Company has previously 9 proposed. 10 Here is a new paragraph that the 11 Company is proposing to add to the side agreement. 12 It reads: "Notwithstanding the above paragraph or 13 Article XVIII" -- so 18 -- "of the CBA, the Company 14 has the right, without limitation, to have any work 15 of a type customarily performed by bargaining unit 16 employees performed off-site by third parties." 17 The next two paragraphs remain 18 unchanged. "The notification amount under Article 19 XVIII has been changed to $250,000 for the length of 20 this agreement. 21 "To the extent there is a dispute 22 between this side agreement and any other provisions 23 of the CBA, this letter shall govern." 24 The next paragraph remains unchanged. 25 "Any arbitrator ruling regarding what positions may Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 20 1 be contracted and/or the duration of contracting 2 (e.g., temporary or permanent) shall be limited to 3 the express terms of this letter and Article XVIII. 4 Any arbitrator ruling on these matters shall not 5 consider prior arbitration awards, customs, prior 6 practice, industry standards, or any other 7 provisions of the CBA. 8 "This agreement will remain in effect 9 until the expiration of the CBA and it may be 10 modified with the mutual consent of the party 11 hereto," is unchanged." 12 Again, as we have said before, you 13 know, the Company is seeking a couple things with 14 this proposal. You know, we want clear language on 15 how and where we can permanently contract out. We 16 are offering clear, you know, language on the 17 permanent -- on the use of permanent contractors. 18 I know over our course of discussions 19 this may not seem like a significant or big deal, 20 but it is. You know, this is a big deal for the 21 Company. You know, as a whole, contracting 22 provisions and contracts around our circuit are far 23 less restrictive on the Company's rights. And so 24 here we are enumerating only some jobs that will be 25 permanently contracted on-site. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 21 1 And you know, we have shared in the 2 past what that language was. We can do that again, 3 if you would like, but I just wanted to highlight 4 that, that this isn't a small deal for either side. 5 That we want the agreement and this side letter and 6 our contract to be all encompassing of the 7 understanding that we have had over these numerous 8 discussions on contracting out. You know, we want 9 language regarding interpretation of what you see, 10 what we see, and that this would be what we look to 11 and can point to, you know, going forward. 12 You know, we have talked about, you 13 know, what is bargaining. Bargaining is the time 14 with contracting to settle, you know, past issues 15 and come to a go-forward agreement. And that is 16 what we are looking for with this language. You 17 know, there is still obvious discrepancies between 18 the Union and the Company and our interpretation 19 over the CBA language, and that is why we are here 20 for this long. But this is a time to settle those 21 disagreements. And, you know, we want to be clear 22 on what information a third-party uses when settling 23 those disagreements. 24 That is, you know -- I want to remind 25 everybody again that we anticipate that there will Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 22 1 be employees in these roles, like we have said, like 2 we have been talking about, at levels that the 3 Company deems appropriate to meet our business 4 needs. This is -- we do important work at the 5 Clinton site and, you know, we have talked through 6 the number of factors that go into our hiring 7 decisions, and that we need to remain flexible, 8 right, to manage our business as the environment and 9 our business conditions, you know, require. 10 And so with the addition of this 11 language and the proposal, I just want to highlight 12 a couple commitments, you know, that the Company has 13 made with this to the Union and to our employees, 14 right, that we are going to continue to hire based 15 on business demands and reserve the right to make 16 those decisions. 17 You know, if we decide to hire 18 employees in any of the roles in Clinton, you know, 19 they will be covered by the agreement. That only 20 positions based at Clinton that are onsite and 21 listed in the side agreement as being subject to 22 being permanently contracted out are the ones that 23 we can do that. So we are limiting ourselves and 24 our ability to do that. 25 What and where work remains, you know, Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 23 1 on-site, the CBA continues to include job 2 protections, you know, for around future, current 3 and future bargaining unit members. 4 So there is lots here with this 5 proposal that the Company is committing too and that 6 we are, you know, placing limits on ourselves and 7 our ability to have third parties engaged at the 8 Clinton site. 9 Do you want to continue or do you want 10 to ask questions? 11 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I think, please go 12 through the entire counterproposal. 13 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. 14 The next section, No. 3, U-4, on the 15 Savings Plan, the crux of the Union proposal. 16 (Discussion off the record.) 17 MS. McCLAIN: What I was going to say 18 is that the proposal that the Union put on the table 19 on the 30th, it created a group of grandfathered 20 employees, right, if the match was reinstated. You 21 had agreed to the suspension and you removed the 22 date, and I appreciated that you listened to the 23 Company's needs and responded in that way. But it 24 is the creation of, you know, a grandfathered set of 25 employees that if the match was reinstated would Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 24 1 continue to get the match, right, to perpetuity. 2 And the Company, you know, isn't interested in doing 3 that. 4 So after reviewing your proposal, no 5 change was made to the Company's initial proposed 6 language, and the language remains, like I said, 7 previously proposed and remains implemented. 8 The next one, we talked about this with 9 Article XVI, "Other Working Conditions." 10 (Discussion off the record.) 11 MS. McCLAIN: So "Other Working 12 Conditions." 13 Section XX, Paid Parental Time Off, 14 there is no change to this one. There hasn't been a 15 change since December 2019. We have agreed to the 16 language written here. So no changes there from us 17 and from the Union. 18 So is it safe to assume that this is a 19 tentative agreement on this language? 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Please go through the 21 entire counterproposal. 22 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. "Educational 23 Refund." There is no change. Again, here, what we 24 were looking for is -- and we have been pretty clear 25 on our needs for immediate cost savings equal to or Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 25 1 greater than what the Company proposed or, you know, 2 maintaining uniformity of benefits and avoiding a 3 future financial obligation for the Company with 4 proposals. You know, that is kind of what we were 5 looking at to evaluate proposals. 6 We have maintained that -- you know, we 7 weren't really interested in setting a specific date 8 or time when Ed Refund suspension would be lifted. 9 Right? What we have maintained is we want -- we 10 would like to have the program, the return of 11 program, you know, be reassessed and, you know, 12 given the business conditions and will inform the 13 ILEU when that happens. And, you know, we have 14 always maintained that Ed Refund is important for 15 all employees. You know, and of course you will 16 have the right to bargain anything. And if and when 17 the program returns, our intent is that ILEU 18 represented employees will be able to participate at 19 the same time and same levels as all other 20 employees, you know, just like we have administered 21 the program over the years. 22 So we did review your proposal, but no 23 change has been made to the Company's language that 24 we have previously provided and it remains 25 implemented. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 26 1 On U-10, "Wages." So we had some 2 conversations last time about needing to take a look 3 at the proposal in light of the current environment, 4 you know, just like we did back in 2020 when we 5 talked about when we crossed over in a new year. 6 You will see here that the Company is providing, you 7 know, a three-year contract, starting Year 1 in 2021 8 with a one-and-a-half percent starting in 2021; a 2 9 percent in 2022 to 2023; and a two-and-a-half 10 percent in 2023 to 2024. 11 So the ratification bonus, if the 12 agreement is ratified by the Union, a $2500 13 ratification bonus, you know, non-benefits bearing 14 payment, will be paid. And the bonus will be paid 15 to all active employees as of the date of the 16 payment. And if the agreement is not ratified by 17 June 30 of 2021, the ratification bonus will be 18 reduced to zero dollars. 19 You know, we talked about the intent of 20 ratification bonuses throughout this and previously 21 retroactivity. You know, we had put retroactivity 22 on the table in, what, maybe September of 2020, in 23 hopes that we would reach an agreement in 2020. We 24 have always said that -- you know, prior to that we 25 had maintained that retroactivity was not consistent Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 27 1 with our interests in a go-forward agreement. And 2 now that we have crossed over into a new year and we 3 are well into 2021, that change was necessary. And, 4 you know, ratification bonus is intended to be -- 5 you know, to provide an incentive for a quick 6 ratification. And we hope that it is still on the 7 table right now, and we really hope that we can work 8 together and this would remain a payment to the 9 employees if ratified before June 30, 2021. 10 You know, we are, like I said, 11 interested in making sure that our proposals are 12 consistent, right, with our intent and our needs, 13 and the intent to have a go-forward agreement that 14 is reflective of our business needs that encompasses 15 the totality of what is in the agreement, the 16 business conditions, you know. We feel that these 17 changes and additions needed to be made and the 18 offer is still good. 19 MR. FREDRIKSEN: If you don't have 20 anything else, I think we should caucus and discuss 21 this. 22 MR. STRASSER: I need to jump back to 23 C2 for a clarifying question. 24 MS. McCLAIN: Certainly. 25 We will send over the corrected -- we Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 28 1 will send this over again. 2 MR. STRASSER: I understand the first 3 part because we have been going back and forth 4 forever. But this new language, this 5 notwithstanding, blah, blah, blah -- can you sort of 6 clarify what explicitly that means or the Company's 7 intend with that? Because it reads as if the first 8 part basically is letting you contract out all these 9 other positions, and the second paragraph lets you 10 send the rest of them off-site. 11 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. So that second 12 paragraph talks about the ability for us to use 13 third-party contractors off-site. You know, it is 14 not saying that we are going to send every single 15 job off-site. It says that we have the right to 16 look at our business and decide where work gets 17 done, either on-site or off-site. 18 And, you know, we have had that 19 understanding and, you know, have implemented 20 changes at Clinton site where work gets done at 21 Clinton and work, you know, gets done off-site. And 22 we just wanted to make sure that this is, you know, 23 reflecting that. 24 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Let's caucus. 25 Steve, are you cool with that? Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 29 1 MR. RAGOMO: Absolutely. Yes. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: We will get back to 3 you when we are ready. 4 (Remote negotiations recessed at 10:01 5 a.m. and resumed at 1:28 p.m.) 6 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Thank you for taking 7 time to get back to us. And again, I would just 8 like to say that it is good that we have a full 9 session so that we are able to, you know, digest 10 some of that information and get back to you today 11 rather than through e-mails. This is productive and 12 this is good. So thank you for meeting with us for 13 a full day. 14 I would like to start out by saying 15 thank you to the Company for making a counter and 16 showing movement. Unfortunately, the movement was 17 all regressive today. It was in the wrong 18 direction. I am saddened to see, once again, that 19 the Company continues to demonstrate only contempt 20 for its essential workforce. 21 When the Company needed to demonstrate 22 that there is value in its R&D, we were there 23 working through a pandemic. We were there to 24 provide proof and substance to that narrative. So 25 it is very disappointing to see this continued Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 30 1 response. This continued attitude. These kinds of 2 strategies employed by the Company that show that 3 they have little to no value that they would like to 4 reflect on its workforce. 5 That being said, we have a lot of 6 questions for you today. We are still working on a 7 counterproposal to give to you that hopefully your 8 answers will help us in making the counterproposal. 9 Starting out, I am going to refer to 10 the proposal you gave to me in order. So from the 11 top, regarding Auto Mechanics. 12 MS. McCLAIN: Let me just get there. 13 Okay. I have it. 14 MR. FREDRIKSEN: The Company last time 15 told us, or even the time before last, that it had 16 market data to show that the starting wage was fair 17 for the Auto Mechanics. We have never seen any 18 market data from the Company regarding Auto 19 Mechanics. We are still awaiting that data. That 20 is what I have to say about Auto Mechanics. 21 Do you have any data to provide us 22 today? 23 MS. McCLAIN: I am sorry. I thought we 24 had provided that. We would have to go back and 25 check on all of that. So I don't have anything to Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 31 1 provide to you today, no. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: We will move on C2. 3 Obviously a lot to unpack. The Company included new 4 language and made some changes. But some questions 5 for you now. The Company implemented a proposal on 6 October 1, correct? 7 MS. McCLAIN: Yes. 8 MR. FREDRIKSEN: This is a new proposal 9 on C2 with new language that was not included in 10 that implemented proposal. 11 What has happened between October 1 and 12 now? What has changed regarding specifically these 13 kinds of issues that made the Company seek this new 14 language? Any, for example, limitations that you 15 have encountered, new limitations surrounding, you 16 know, prompting this language? Anything? 17 MS. McCLAIN: So, our -- you know, like 18 I said, our rationale was that we took a look at our 19 proposal to see whether or not it is meeting the 20 intent that we have for our proposals. And, you 21 know, in looking at that, we saw that this was 22 unclear. 23 We haven't encountered any limitations 24 to what you are referring to, as to, you know, if 25 there is -- you know, that we weren't able to do Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 32 1 something. But as we had discussed, right, the 2 Company would like for the C2 proposal to, you know, 3 include all of intents and to cover our basis on 4 what our understanding is -- you know, what we have 5 agreed to in this negotiation about C2. 6 And so that is really what it was. You 7 know, we want to cover our basis. We want to make 8 sure that this is an all-encompassing agreement and, 9 you know, we are always reviewing and re-reviewing 10 our proposals. And we have been on the same page 11 about the Company's right to use contractors, you 12 know, third-party contractors off-site, at least 13 from history, is my understanding, and we just 14 wanted to capture that since we do have the 15 arbitration language there that says, our agreement, 16 this side agreement and the contract, you know, 17 understands, is the comprehensive understanding 18 between the two of us about how to use contractors. 19 So that is really the why. 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So let me see if I 21 understand this. Bear with me here. 22 The Company's position to the Union is 23 that we have talked to an impasse on C2 and that 24 there is nothing more to talk about. Now, you were 25 totally happy with your proposal, so you implemented Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 33 1 it. Now something must have happened in order to 2 make you change your mind. Why did you change your 3 mind and add new language? 4 MS. McCLAIN: I think that we can look 5 at our proposals and, you know, talk about whether 6 or not something is -- needs to be updated and we 7 have the right to do that. Like I said, we review 8 and look at our proposals all the time and, of 9 course, in light of the entire year that has 10 happened and, you know, wanting to be flexible and 11 nimble to react to any other future business changes 12 that might come. I mean, we don't know what that 13 might be, but, you know, this is a forward-looking 14 agreement. We want to make sure that we have our 15 understanding of our rights captured in this 16 proposal. You know, we have -- we can update our 17 proposal. 18 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So my understanding, 19 the justification is that nothing happened, nothing 20 specific, the Company just felt like it? 21 MS. McCLAIN: We feel that we need it 22 in order to be flexible, especially given all of the 23 business changes and other things that have happened 24 throughout the Corporation. And in a difficult 25 business environment, you know, we just need to make Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 34 1 sure that our understanding is captured. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So you need this 3 off-siting, this off-sourcing language? You need 4 it? 5 MS. McCLAIN: Well, for us, you know, 6 our intent is, these are things that we are looking 7 for. We would hope to validate and make sure that, 8 you know, what we have on the table reflects -- and 9 I am pointing, I am sorry, you can't see that I am 10 pointing to the proposal -- reflects what the 11 Company's -- and when I say "needs" I mean the 12 business needs are, and we are able to react to 13 those business needs. 14 This language is our proposal. It is 15 our interest to have this language capture what we, 16 you know, have understood as our, you know, ability 17 to use third parties off-site. 18 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So you are saying that 19 you understood that you already had that right. Is 20 that what you are saying to me? 21 MS. McCLAIN: Yes. 22 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So why are you putting 23 this language in the proposal? 24 MS. McCLAIN: Like I said, we have 25 always talked about this proposal that the company Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 35 1 intends that this proposal is an all-encompassing 2 proposal about what we understand as the Company and 3 the Union in how we utilize contractors. And with 4 this piece, now in it, we feel that this proposal 5 captures the Company's understanding and we want to 6 make sure that it does that. So that is why it is 7 there. 8 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So nothing specific? 9 MS. McCLAIN: No, nothing specific. 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Nothing has happened. 11 There is nothing that you want to do that is new? 12 This proposal isn't new in your mind, it is 13 something that is reflecting something that exists? 14 MS. McCLAIN: It is an addition. 15 MR. FREDRIKSEN: You are just putting 16 it, adding it because you feel like it? 17 MS. McCLAIN: No, we added that we 18 wanted to make sure that it captures our 19 understanding and intent of using contractors. And, 20 of course, like I said at the last meeting, you 21 know, we take a look at our proposals all the time. 22 I think it is, you know, simple enough to understand 23 that, you know, in this business environment we are 24 looking at our proposals and evaluating them and 25 making sure that they capture our intent and Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 36 1 understanding of our rights. It is really 2 important. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: If you are still 4 looking at proposals and evaluating them, then why 5 did you declare impasse? You had proposals to make. 6 MS. McCLAIN: At that time, right, we 7 were satisfied with our proposal. We had known -- 8 we didn't think we needed to change it at that time. 9 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So what happened that 10 made you unsatisfied with the proposal? Nothing? 11 MS. McCLAIN: At this point -- like I 12 said, we started talking. You presented us with a 13 counterproposal. You know, we were looking at our 14 proposals based on the year that the Company has 15 had, the external market, needing to be nimble, 16 reflecting every single issue that is going on with 17 the view that we need to be able to react to 18 changing business cycles, changing business needs, 19 and we wanted to make sure that this -- 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I want to move on, but 21 I am going to say -- 22 MS. McCLAIN: What was that? 23 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I would like to move 24 on. I am hearing from you that nothing has 25 happened, and that is what I am going to take away Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 37 1 from this. 2 MS. McCLAIN: No, I am not saying that. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: If you can tell me 4 something specific that did happen, then please tell 5 me. Otherwise, we are going to move on. I am going 6 to tell the membership that nothing happened that 7 made them want it, they just feel like it. 8 MS. McCLAIN: I guess I am not -- so I 9 guess what you are looking for is -- 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Is a direct answer. 11 MS. McCLAIN: -- figure some specific 12 hit and, you know -- other than us, you know -- 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Feeling like it. 14 MS. McCLAIN: -- getting back together 15 talking and seeing what has happened in the last 16 year, you know, the Company -- the Company's current 17 business strategy, you know, that had happened and 18 reacting to the business environment -- sorry, not 19 strategy, I used the wrong word. Environment. 20 But reacting to the business 21 environment, making sure that we have the 22 flexibility, you know, to adjust as needed to meet 23 our business needs. You know, that is what we are 24 trying to do here. 25 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 38 1 MS. McCLAIN: So we will think about 2 it. That is my response. We will think about it. 3 I haven't had a chance to talk to my team, but we 4 will think about it and if there is -- I am not sure 5 exactly what you are looking for other than -- 6 MR. FREDRIKSEN: A direct answer. The 7 Company declared impasse. This is unprecedented. 8 This never happened before, is my understanding. So 9 that is pretty serious. So now the Company went 10 back on that and proposed a new proposal. Something 11 should have happened. And if nothing happened, then 12 nothing happened, and there is no reason for it and 13 you just felt like it. And that is fine, I will 14 just move on, and that is the answer. But if 15 something happened -- 16 MS. McCLAIN: I guess what I don't 17 understand is that you are overlooking, you know, 18 all of 2020, all of 2019. 19 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. So remind me 20 what year you declared impasse. What year was it? 21 MS. McCLAIN: You know, and we can -- 22 MR. RAGOMO: 2020. October 1, 2020. 23 MS. McCLAIN: October 1, 2020. 24 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So all of 2020 25 happened, like the worst part of COVID happened. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 39 1 MS. McCLAIN: And now this is well into 2 2021. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So things have gotten 4 worse since October? 5 MS. McCLAIN: In our businesses we have 6 had losses, right? We have had other economic -- 7 the economic environment is different than when we 8 started. 9 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Can the Company 10 demonstrate -- 11 MS. McCLAIN: Go ahead. 12 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I would like to move 13 on after this. Here is the final request. 14 Please demonstrate financial losses 15 incurred by the Company since October as a result of 16 being unable or unwilling to perform work off-site. 17 MS. McCLAIN: You, as well as I know 18 that that was not my intent, and it is likely -- we 19 will get back to you. You can see the Company's -- 20 I was referring to the overall statements for 21 ExxonMobil as a whole just now. But we will take 22 your question and get back to you. 23 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. 24 Then we will move on. 25 We are not fully moving on. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 40 1 Does the Company intend to use this 2 language to lay off, transfer, de-promote, or in any 3 way impact existing bargaining unit employees? 4 MS. McCLAIN: So there are currently no 5 plans to do that. 6 MR. RAGOMO: No studies are being -- 7 MR. FREDRIKSEN: The way you said that 8 makes it sound like you are trying to reserve the 9 right to do that. Is that your intent? 10 MS. McCLAIN: I mean, we have that 11 right today. 12 MR. FREDRIKSEN: You have the right to 13 fire someone and then send their work off-site just 14 because you want to send it off-site? 15 MS. McCLAIN: Our language currently 16 says, right, that if there is a downturn, if work 17 doesn't -- if there isn't a volume of work for that 18 person, right, we can declare a layoff, right? I 19 mean, we try to find the person something else to 20 do, transfer, which may include back down, demotion, 21 things like that. 22 MR. FREDRIKSEN: No, no, no. JeffeLee, 23 the language, let's be clear, doesn't say that if 24 the Company wants to send the work off-site, they 25 can do a layoff. That is not what it says. The Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 41 1 Company says if there is not work available. So 2 that means that the person has to get that 3 opportunity before you send it off-site and fire 4 them. That is what the contract says. 5 MS. McCLAIN: And what we are saying is 6 there is currently no plans to do that. 7 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Would you 8 reflect in your -- 9 MR. RAGOMO: There is no studies -- I 10 am sorry, Tom. 11 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Would you reflect in 12 your proposal language to that effect? So for 13 example, we have above all employees currently in 14 these position will retain their jobs? Would you be 15 willing to put language in there after that in a 16 similar vein, saying that these people that 17 currently work as employees will have their jobs 18 protected? 19 MS. McCLAIN: Again, if that is a 20 proposal that you want to make, that is something 21 that you can bring forward. 22 MR. FREDRIKSEN: If that is the 23 Company's intent -- what I am saying, JeffeLee -- 24 MS. McCLAIN: There is no plans to do 25 this now. I think in the difficult business Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 42 1 environment, it would be, you know ineffectual for 2 us to not consider all options, you know, based on 3 cost, efficiency, quality, safety, et cetera. 4 MR. FREDRIKSEN: You can't do it. I am 5 telling you right now, you can't. 6 MS. McCLAIN: -- to tie the Company's 7 hands. 8 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Your hands are already 9 tied. You can't do that. It is in the contract. 10 This new language is -- you are saying 11 that you want to have this thing be all encompassing 12 and you want it to be really clear. If you are 13 telling me that your intention is not to do it 14 anyway, then I would like to see from the Company a 15 reflection in goodwill of that intention in the form 16 of a proposal. 17 MS. McCLAIN: What I am saying is that 18 we currently have no plans do it, but we also don't 19 want to tie the Company's hands on being able to 20 have the flexibility, you know, to make decisions as 21 our business needs might dictate and, you know, make 22 decisions as to where and by whom work is done. I 23 mean, that has been the Company's right that we are 24 talking about. 25 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So you want to be able Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 43 1 to lay people off and then send the work off-site? 2 You will have work available, you will lay them off 3 anyway, and then you will send the work off-site. 4 That is my understanding of the Company's intent. 5 MR. RAGOMO: That is the way I 6 understand it also. 7 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Is that right? 8 MS. McCLAIN: Is there another 9 question? 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: That is the question. 11 Is that right? 12 MS. McCLAIN: Of what is the Company's 13 intent? Again, like I said, it is for us to 14 determine and have the flexibility to adjust our 15 business as we see fit and determine, you know, 16 where and by whom work is done. 17 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Moving on. 18 So the Company says "third-party" in 19 this language. What is a third-party? 20 MS. McCLAIN: A third-party is someone 21 not the Company, not the employee. Someone -- an 22 entity outside of ExxonMobil. 23 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Can you give some 24 examples? You can follow-up if you want. How about 25 this for a full follow-up. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 44 1 MS. McCLAIN: Sure. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Please include all 3 specific examples with which the Company intends to 4 include with this language with regard to third 5 parties. 6 MS. McCLAIN: Just so I got it, I might 7 need you to repeat the last part, and it is probably 8 best if you have it to send it in an e-mail. But 9 please include all specific examples by which the 10 Company intends to use under this -- 11 MR. FREDRIKSEN: All examples of third 12 parties that the Company intends with this proposal. 13 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. All right. 14 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Move on. I am 15 going to read for you a quote from Darren Woods, 16 early April or was it late March, in front of 17 ExxonMobil employees, shareholders, member of the 18 press -- Darren Woods said, with regards to the 19 Savings Plan Match -- and I know you are familiar 20 with this -- "My expectation is that we will bring 21 that back. That was meant to be a temporary pause 22 and it will be a function of where we see the market 23 going." 24 Later on he went on to say, "If this 25 year continues, where we see it, I would like to try Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 45 1 to bring back that temporary pause later this year." 2 Now, this is a question -- because the 3 Company said it hasn't performed any reassessments 4 of the match -- how is that not an assessment? 5 MS. McCLAIN: I think there is a lot -- 6 at least to me -- okay, you are asking -- your 7 question, was how is the chairman's statement, just 8 so I understand -- 9 MR. FREDRIKSEN: How is not either an 10 assessment or a commitment to reassess within a time 11 frame? 12 MS. McCLAIN: In our prior 13 understanding was, you know, of your questions from 14 the information request about the Savings Plan Match 15 was did we have any specifics, and what I heard from 16 the chairman was an expression of his desire to do 17 so, not that he made an assessment of the market or 18 made a determination or, you know, again, now, I am 19 expressing my opinion. From what we have been made 20 aware, there have been no official evaluation or a 21 date by which we will do so to my knowledge. Like, 22 I can't say it is going to happen by 12/31/21. You 23 know, and what I heard, like I said, from the 24 chairman was his -- you know, he expressed his 25 desire to do that and that he was hopeful to do so. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 46 1 So, I didn't see that, you know, unfortunately, and 2 this is again my information. I can't say that 3 there is a formal date, and that is why we responded 4 that way. 5 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. All right. We 6 will think about that and get back to you. 7 I am going to move on. In the 8 information request, the Company said that it 9 participated in the 2020 survey. Please give us the 10 results of the 2020 survey and any data that the 11 Company has used to assess our wages since 2018. 12 MS. McCLAIN: Okay. 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: The Company responded 14 to our information request regarding LPOs. We still 15 have a lot of questions on that. Initial question 16 here, it is a very direct question. 17 Is performing or receiving LPOs a job 18 duty or requirement for bargaining unit employees? 19 MS. McCLAIN: I was waiting for -- 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: That is the whole 21 question. Yes or no? 22 MS. McCLAIN: Yuk? 23 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Yes? The answer is 24 yes? 25 MS. LOUIE: Yes. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 47 1 MR. FREDRIKSEN: JeffeLee, is that 2 right? 3 MS. McCLAIN: I was frozen for a 4 minute. Yes. 5 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. 6 We will have follow-ups. I think -- do 7 you have anything to give to us or should we caucus 8 again? 9 MS. McCLAIN: Let's see, we can caucus 10 for a little bit and then get back together. 11 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. 12 (Remote negotiations recessed at 1:56 13 p.m. and resumed at 2:28 p.m.) 14 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Thanks for getting 15 back to us again. I have a couple follow-up 16 questions. 17 Steve, do you want to ask that question 18 about the study? 19 MR. RAGOMO: Yes. I was trying to ask 20 a question regarding the contracting out and moving 21 third-party and things like that. 22 What, if any, studies is the Company 23 currently doing in terms of trying to move all of 24 our work off-site and potentially close the Clinton 25 facility? Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 48 1 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Or even any studies 2 the Company is performing regarding outsourcing 3 work. 4 MR. RAGOMO: True. Any studies. But 5 there are a few examples if you want. These are 6 just examples, these among any other study you might 7 be doing, but specifically to the automotive group, 8 where all of that work would be moved off-site. And 9 also, anything that may potentially be within the 10 ACT Group, specifically an employee, I believe 11 retired, or is still on the roles. Clarence Chase, 12 his work is going to be outsourced now, when it was 13 done on-site. And there is a -- I believe it is -- 14 don't quote me on the name of the company -- Callas 15 Testing Company, and somebody else may be able to 16 give me a little more clarity in terms of the name 17 of the company, but things of that nature that -- 18 reliability where the Company is claiming that the 19 reliability is better. 20 And I can give you an example of our 21 site and specifically the grease group, uncovered 22 something that was wrong in the industry, and 23 third-party sources were still giving data back to 24 our people as though it was good. Yet, two of our 25 technicians, John DeMarco, who is no longer with the Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 49 1 Company, and Mike Marlina discovered that there was 2 an issue with the bearings. Mike actually had the 3 president come onsite and declare that, yes, this is 4 wrong and they should not have been giving you any 5 results. 6 This test is now off. Around the 7 world, it is no longer allowed to be run. That was 8 discovered in-house. So your third-party that you 9 want to outsource our work to, well, they are the 10 results -- they are giving you results on bad 11 equipment. So if you want to spend your money that 12 way... I don't agree with it. I think it is 13 foolish. 14 We -- it behooves us to just report the 15 result. Them, they just want to make money. So 16 good, bad or indifferent, we are going to give you 17 the results. Them, they are only going to give you 18 what you want to know. 19 If that is the route that the Company 20 is choosing to take, so be it, but I would like to 21 know if those studies are going on, and as Tom said, 22 in any area within the Company, because there are -- 23 and I know it is rumors, but there are rumors, 24 Automotive and Analytical, are a couple areas that 25 are actually being targeted. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 50 1 MS. McCLAIN: For your first question, 2 are there any studies to outsource the entire 3 bargaining unit? No. There is no studies that I am 4 aware of to outsource the entire bargaining unit. 5 I don't have specifics of every part of 6 the Company that might be doing, you know, studies. 7 However, I do know that, you know, at least it is 8 our understanding that the Company is generally 9 looking, you know, at all of our businesses and how 10 and where work gets done. We look at everything. 11 Based on what I note, there are no decisions that 12 have been made. 13 And for the Company, our language is, 14 like I said, we want the ability and have the intent 15 that there is no confusion about contracting out and 16 we want to capture, you know, what -- and be 17 consistent with what we are doing and how we are 18 using contractors and what we are agreeing to with 19 use of contractors. Like I said, we don't want to 20 tie the Company's hands for the future. 21 We want to be able to adapt to future 22 business challenges and that is what this new 23 language affords the Company that we are proposing. 24 Right? 25 MR. RAGOMO: Would that pertain to Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 51 1 Human Resources too? 2 MS. McCLAIN: Hey, you know, for us, I 3 can tell you right now, my team is down three people 4 for -- with major studies that happened in HR moving 5 work to Buenos Aires, just to answer your question. 6 All over the Corporation, we are looking at how we 7 utilize our resources and being nimble and flexible 8 to adjust for the future. 9 But, again, that is my response off the 10 cuff. You know, we will take your question and get 11 back to you formally. 12 MR. RAGOMO: Thank you. 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I am going to turn 14 your attention back to your counterproposal. The 15 Company made a lot of changes to the wage proposal. 16 We are still digesting the changes and how we want 17 to counter with that. 18 MS. McCLAIN: Yep. 19 MR. FREDRIKSEN: The Company has 20 removed retroactivity to June 1, 2020. So as of 21 October 1, when the Company partially implements it, 22 not including the wage proposal, when the Company 23 declared impasse, it hadn't made any changes to its 24 wage proposal in a long time. 25 So similar to our previous line of Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 52 1 questions, what has changed regarding the Company's 2 inability to pay or financial obligations to be able 3 to pay a one percent retroactive wage to June 1 4 since October 1, 2020? 5 MS. McCLAIN: We will get back to you. 6 But I don't think in any of my -- you know, when we 7 were talking about the wages that, you know, the 8 Company isn't pleading poverty. We are not saying 9 we can't page wages. We are saying that -- 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: You don't want to. 11 MS. McCLAIN: -- the retroactivity 12 isn't consistent with what, you know, we think is 13 appropriate, with being well into 2021. 14 MR. RAGOMO: So it sounds almost as 15 though you are taking it away just for spite. 16 MS. McCLAIN: There is no spite. There 17 is a reflection of, you know, when we crossover from 18 2019 into 2020. We made a similar consistent 19 proposal of, you know, we dropped the year and 20 utilized the wages in that current year instead of 21 sliding the wages out and giving a one in 2021. We 22 kept the one and a half and shortened the contract 23 term instead of four to three years. 24 So, that is -- that is -- those are -- 25 you know, that is why we looked at this and being Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 53 1 consistent with crossing over a year in contracting. 2 It has nothing to do with spite. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: It absolutely is 4 contempt. If you didn't want to spite the 5 Bargaining Unit, if you didn't want to show your 6 contempt for us and for what we represent, then why 7 are you financially hurting us? 8 MS. McCLAIN: Again, you know, we had 9 the -- we are not financially hurting the Union. 10 The Union had the ability to vote on this contract 11 since 2018. There are wages still here on the table 12 with a ratification bonus. I cannot express like 13 how much it is, you know, inconsistent and untrue 14 that we have any contempt for our employees. We 15 care about our employees. We are guaranteeing 16 wages. This year -- 17 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Have you lowered your 18 wage proposal? 19 MS. McCLAIN: So what we have said is 20 we have removed retroactivity. Right? The proposal 21 that we had for 2021 is the same as what we had 22 proposed for 2022 is the same as -- and in 2023 is 23 the same. 24 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Have you lowered your 25 wage proposal? Has the amount of money that you are Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 54 1 offering the Bargaining Unit gone done? 2 MS. McCLAIN: With the removal of 3 retroactivity since that year has passed, yes. 4 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Why? 5 MS. McCLAIN: It is a new year, like I 6 have said, we have moved into -- you know, we have 7 crossed years, just like we did from '19 to '20, and 8 this is reflective of where we are today and moving 9 forward. 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So the Company -- so 11 the Company is comfortable providing a zero 12 percentage increase for three years of the contract 13 period, and the Company believes that this doesn't 14 show that it has contempt for its workforce at all? 15 MS. McCLAIN: I don't believe so 16 because the contract has been on the table, you 17 know. We have provided an offer and, you know, the 18 Union chose not to accept that, and so we are now in 19 a new year and we are taking a look at that. 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: How am I supposed to 21 be incentivized to help dig the Company out of the 22 hole that it is in and work extra super hard to make 23 sure that everybody can be happy and the 24 shareholders can be comforted by the knowledge that 25 their workforce is doing its part, when the Company Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 55 1 is basically -- the Company is not basically -- the 2 Company is literally holding a gun, a financial gun, 3 like I said, this is figuratively, to the Bargaining 4 Unit's head to agree to a contract in the face of 5 continuing to reduce the wages moving forward? 6 How is that right? How do you sleep at 7 night? Seriously. 8 MS. McCLAIN: This has been on the 9 table. The offer has been on the table. The Union 10 has had an opportunity, you know, to have that 11 financial guarantee in, you know, 2018, '19, '20, 12 '21. 13 MR. RAGOMO: 2019 were zeros. As I 14 recall, '18 and '19 were zeros. 15 MR. FREDRIKSEN: They were zeros as a 16 result of the Company's attitude towards the wage 17 proposal, which is like if you don't get a contract, 18 you get zero percent. 19 So again, I have to ask you, 20 JeffeLee -- 21 MS. McCLAIN: Again, like I -- 22 MR. FREDRIKSEN: It is the Company's 23 choice to do that. You are choosing to do that, 24 JeffeLee. You are proposing a zero -- with this 25 proposal today, you have proposed a zero percent Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 56 1 wage increase for 2020. It is your choice to do 2 that. 3 Do not act like the Union has any 4 responsibility over the decisions the Company makes 5 on its wage proposal, because that is totally 6 untrue. 7 MS. McCLAIN: -- the Union could have 8 made, at the time, in order to get increases in 9 2020. Again were to, at that time, the agreement 10 was on the table. It was always there to provide. 11 MR. STRASSER: It was a ransom note. 12 MR. RAGOMO: At the cost of jobs. At 13 the cost of jobs. It is one where you are asking us 14 -- you put in there a drop-dead date of June 30. 15 What is so magical about June 30? That you want to 16 say you took away the 5,000, you reduced it down to 17 2,500. 18 I was looking forward to the 5,000 19 quite honestly, because I had plans and I have 20 spoken to other Technicians on the site that we were 21 going to actually take an African safari together, 22 and that is how we were going to utilize those 23 funds. 24 Because when Bruce March was our 25 president, I remember him standing there and he Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 57 1 unequivocally said, "Hey, if you ever get an 2 opportunity, take the African safari," and I thought 3 the Company was giving me a viable opportunity to go 4 on an African safari with that $5,000. I was really 5 looking forward to it. 6 Now, you want to take that opportunity 7 away from me where here the president was able to do 8 it of EMRE and now I feel as though, wow, you just 9 want to continue to take away and it is very 10 unfortunate. 11 I do agree with Tom that you are asking 12 a great deal from your employees and the lack of 13 respect, the -- you are asking people to give up so 14 much, for what? Because your language there -- you 15 just want for keep it in there? You just want to be 16 able to start outsourcing all the jobs? You don't 17 want people to feel comfortable at any point in time 18 to build a career with ExxonMobil? It is supposed 19 to be this wonderful company that everybody wants to 20 work for, and they are lining up at the gate. You 21 can just replace us at a whim, because so many 22 people want to come. The Last time I checked, we 23 have a lot of people leaving, and that should tell 24 you something. 25 And if ultimately your goal is to close Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 58 1 the site and to just outsource everything, sobeit. 2 It is your jobs too that are on the line. But 3 remember, the work that has to get done, and 4 Chairman Woods said it, that the technology is what 5 is going to carry us through the future. What we 6 are going to do to make this company the state of 7 the art company that it should be, well, that is on 8 all our backs. That is on the backs of your 9 technicians, of the work that is going on in 10 Clinton. 11 MS. McCLAIN: I think we are all 12 contributing to the technology and support and, you 13 know -- 14 MR. RAGOMO: I don't necessarily 15 believe that. I believe you have a lot of 16 contractors that stand around and do nothing, that 17 we are paying. We have contractors now watching 18 contractors. So do you think they are going to turn 19 around and turn in a brother that is not really 20 performing their duty, that they are not going to be 21 performing the best at their tasks. 22 You don't even walk around and see that 23 you have contractors blatantly stealing from the 24 Corporation time, because time is theft is a real 25 thing. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 59 1 MS. McCLAIN: If you know of that, 2 please let me know. 3 MR. RAGOMO: I am telling you right 4 now. Just walk down the hall. Oh, I forgot, I am 5 an essential employee. I walk down the hall. I am 6 an essential employee. I see it every day. I hear 7 it when they sit there and it is, "Oh, take your 8 time with this job, take your time with that job. 9 Why aren't you on the site walking 10 around and saying it? 11 MS. McCLAIN: Let us know. 12 MR. RAGOMO: Let you know? You know, 13 we have let you know these things by pointing out to 14 you. You want to keep outsourcing our jobs, you are 15 not that worried. You are worried about it. You 16 say, "Well, it is not part of our" -- 17 MS. McCLAIN: Steve, we can take up one 18 if you have names. I would really like to know who 19 specifically is violating, you know -- 20 MR. RAGOMO: Craig -- we can do that. 21 I will give you one name. Craig Rigby. There you 22 go. You want one name. There is a name for you. 23 Craig Rigby. Look him up. He was walked off the 24 site once prior too, and yet you bring them back 25 onsite. It makes no sense why you would have Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 60 1 someone go offsite and now you are going to bring 2 them back on. 3 Look up Jeff vanDyne. Another one. 4 Doesn't have a clue as to what he is doing. Comes 5 in, but you want to bring them back onsite. Okay? 6 You have a lot of pipe fitters that 7 don't their craft. You put them into a designer 8 role, you demote our employees, you take them 9 from -- anyway. I am sorry. 10 Here is the thing. This is coming from 11 a position of passion because I believe that this 12 Company, this organization could be number one. And 13 I personally have a responsibility to my membership 14 to make sure that we are the best and we shine the 15 best, and I can do everything in my power to fight 16 for them the best that I know how. And the only way 17 that I really know how to do that is to let you know 18 that we are giving it our all, but it becomes very 19 difficult and it is very demoralizing when the 20 Company turns around and does things in a sense of 21 you go backwards. You truly went backwards. And it 22 puts me in a position where I am -- quite honestly, 23 I am embarrassed to work for ExxonMobil. 24 MS. McCLAIN: I am sorry to hear that. 25 MR. FREDRIKSEN: JeffeLee, the Company Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 61 1 is adamant that we need to all do our part to help 2 save it from the position that it is in, and that 3 R&D is very important. All of its employees in the 4 Bargaining Unit feel that the only contribution that 5 the Company's bargaining team is making to that 6 effort are threats and blackmail. 7 All you are doing is threatening us 8 with lower wages if you don't agree to your 9 contracting-out proposal. It is still your decision 10 to give us a zero percent wage increase for 2020. 11 It is your decision to give us a zero percent wage 12 increase for 2019. It is your decision to give us a 13 zero percent wage increase for 2018. That has 14 nothing to do with the Union bargaining team. You 15 have made those decisions. Therefore, you need to 16 accept responsibility for that. 17 MS. McCLAIN: However, but, there was 18 an offer and there have been an offer on the table 19 that the Union could take. 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Through threats, 21 through blackmail. Absolutely there was an offer. 22 MS. McCLAIN: There was no threat or 23 blackmail. I fully disagree. And I don't 24 appreciate that you are calling it that. 25 MR. FREDRIKSEN: It is the truth. It Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 62 1 is time for us to say what it is, JeffeLee. 2 MS. McCLAIN: It is not the truth. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: It is a threat that 4 you are using against us. 5 MS. McCLAIN: You placed an offer on 6 the table where we provided guaranteed increases and 7 a 5,000-dollar ratification bonus, and the Union 8 chose not to take that forward. You chose not to 9 accept it. That is fine. 10 MR. FREDRIKSEN: So you had to resort 11 to the stick. So the Union didn't do what you 12 wanted it to do, so you had to get the stick. There 13 is never any carrot. 14 MS. McCLAIN: There is no threat. 15 There is no stick. 16 MR. RAGOMO: June 30. 17 (Discussion off the record.) 18 MR. FREDRIKSEN: JeffeLee, I am telling 19 you how people feel on-site. This isn't some bold 20 rhetoric -- it really isn't -- that is just coming 21 from me. People feel that by the Company's actions 22 and by their words and by the deeds that they have 23 done throughout bargaining that they don't care 24 about them. They don't give a crap about them. 25 MR. RAGOMO: Not at all. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 63 1 MR. FREDRIKSEN: This has been the most 2 difficult time of many peoples' entire lives, during 3 COVID. Forget about the business. Because the 4 Company always emphasizes peoples' livelihoods, 5 their life, their family, their sanity, their mental 6 health. You always emphasize that over the 7 business. You are supposed to, right? And yet you 8 are using these tactics that are just downright -- 9 they are crude and they are embarrassing, JeffeLee. 10 And honestly, it is just -- it really 11 is shameful, and this is what people see from you. 12 They don't see any positive incentive to do their 13 work. They don't have any idea that the Company 14 cares about the job that they are doing. All they 15 see is that if the Union doesn't agree to their 16 contracting proposal, the Company is going to punish 17 us by removing another year of wage increases. That 18 is it. 19 MS. McCLAIN: That is not correct. 20 Right? We are not punishing anyone because of, you 21 know, not accepting a particular agreement or 22 another. 23 We are taking a look at our 24 environment. We are taking a look at where we are 25 right now. Like I said, it is disappointing. I Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 64 1 hear what you are saying, that folks, you know, are 2 looking for a financial incentive in order to feel 3 valued and, you know, the 2020 retroactivity. That 4 is what you are saying, right? 5 MR. RAGOMO: I -- 6 MS. McCLAIN: Sorry, Steve. 7 MR. RAGOMO: I was going to say, I 8 don't necessarily agree with that statement. I 9 don't believe it is just the financial thing. It is 10 just the language you have in there that you just 11 want to outsource all of our jobs. That you just 12 want to replace people with contractors. That is 13 the way it reads, that is how it comes off. That is 14 what people see. 15 MS. McCLAIN: I was just referring to 16 our conversation right now on the wages. 17 MR. RAGOMO: My apologies. 18 MS. McCLAIN: It is fine, Steve. No 19 need to apologize. 20 And what I was going to point out is 21 the Company's commitment is demonstrated here with 22 guaranteeing wages, right, for the next three years 23 and there is a ratification bonus on the table. 24 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Conditionally 25 guaranteeing them. So it is not really a guarantee. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 65 1 MS. McCLAIN: Of 1.5, 2, and 2.5. You 2 know, if we have an agreement and it is ratified. 3 MR. FREDRIKSEN: That is not a 4 guarantee. You are not guaranteeing the wages. You 5 are conditionally offering the wages if we agree to 6 your contracting out proposal. 7 MS. McCLAIN: What we are saying is 8 this is bargaining of our contract. Our contract, 9 you know, we are not bargaining a one-off issue 10 here. Right? This is the totality of our 11 agreement. You know, when we put the offer on the 12 table -- 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I have told you 14 multiple times. The Union has told you this 15 multiple times in the far distant past. You had 16 these opportunities placed in front of you when 17 things were a little different, but we have told you 18 that if you withdrew your contracting out proposal 19 that you would have your contract. We would vote on 20 the rest of the items. 21 That was a long time ago, and things 22 have changed since then, but to act as though it has 23 always been a complex system of different things is 24 being disingenuous, because the contracting out 25 proposal, from the Company's own mouth, has been the Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 66 1 most important thing that you have been seeking for 2 a very long time. 3 MS. McCLAIN: Correct. It is an 4 important, you know, a key element of what we are 5 looking for in bargaining. I mean, we have said 6 that, right? So you asking us to remove it -- 7 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I am not asking you 8 anything right now. I am not asking you a thing 9 right now. I am telling you. I am telling you what 10 the membership sees by the Company's own actions. 11 And when we go back and we show them that this is 12 the Company's latest offer, do you really think 13 people are going to walk away from this feeling good 14 about the work that they do onsite? Do you think 15 this is going to incentivize people to work even 16 harder when you are saying things are as bad as they 17 have ever been? 18 MS. McCLAIN: I hope that they 19 recognize, what I hope that they do think is that 20 the Company is providing, you know, increased wages, 21 that these are -- you know, they can take a look 22 around and we can provide it to you, but, you know, 23 this provides -- this offer provides, you know, in 24 2021, the highest, you know, if we can an agreement, 25 bargained economics with the most total cash in the Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 67 1 ExxonMobil circuit. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: For years of zeros? 3 That is weird. I don't think that is true. I don't 4 think is true at all, JeffeLee, because this 5 includes three years of zeros. I think this might 6 be the lowest in the entire circuit. 7 MS. McCLAIN: What I am saying is, in 8 2021, looking forward. 9 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Right, if you don't 10 look at the facts, you can represent them however 11 you want. That is true. 12 MS. McCLAIN: If we are looking forward 13 and we are looking at what is on the table right 14 now. Right? I mean, other locations have had -- 15 have agreed to less than us. But based on what we 16 have said is our factors of what we looked at, we 17 think that this is a good increase and a good offer 18 for folks where they are getting increases for 2021, 19 2022 and 2023. 20 MR. FREDRIKSEN: And nothing for 2018, 21 2019 and 2020? 22 MS. McCLAIN: Correct. There was an 23 opportunity -- there was the opportunity to have 24 increases for 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 25 -- I am sorry 2022 into 2023, were always on the Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 68 1 table in each of those years. Right? And we have 2 met in this one, the Union's -- request for term at 3 three years in moving forward. And I think we have 4 been consistent, right, on the areas that have 5 needed to be addressed in proposals. And this 6 provides the flexibility that the Company needs and 7 gets employees, you know, the pay, as well as PPTO 8 that is agreed to here in the agreement and, you 9 know, other areas, you know, that are outlined here. 10 I mean, this isn't -- I understand that 11 you are -- what you are saying to me, but I don't 12 want us to overlook what we are all getting, what 13 employees are getting with this offer. You know, we 14 are restricting the Company's rights, you know, 15 while providing, you know, these guaranteed 16 increases and a ratification bonus, which is 17 intended to incentivize quick ratification, and that 18 is what it is intended for. 19 MR. RAGOMO: So the date of June 30 is 20 not to force our hand, it is not -- you are not 21 doing that as an intimidation thing to try and have 22 the people in this room look bad to our membership? 23 No, that is not your intent at all. You intent is 24 just to punish us because we are not taking back a 25 contract that we see that is not fair. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 69 1 And let's speak to the fact that you 2 are saying that you are guaranteeing those wage 3 increases. Does that mean you are guaranteeing our 4 jobs? If you are guaranteeing those wage increases, 5 that, to me, means that you guaranteed my job, 6 minimum, for the next three years. 7 MS. McCLAIN: Steve, we all know the 8 contract does not have any minimum number of 9 employees that the Company has to keep or stay at or 10 increase to. I mean, we know that. Everyone in 11 that payroll in that year gets that amount. We know 12 that. That is not what we are saying. 13 MR. RAGOMO: JeffeLee, I am not trying 14 to sound funny or disrespectful in any way. This is 15 how my mind was working at the time. It was kind of 16 one of those. I was thinking it and I figured I 17 would just put it out there as a comment. I am not 18 trying to show any disrespect whatsoever at all. I 19 just -- 20 MS. McCLAIN: I understand, I was just 21 trying to point out that anybody -- you know, if the 22 contract is ratified, anybody on payroll and 23 working, you know, in 2023 will get a 2.5 percent 24 increase. That is what I mean by guarantee. We 25 can't think that. We can't take it away. We can't Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 70 1 do anything to it. That is what I meant. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: JeffeLee, do you know 3 what the membership is going to think of when they 4 see that there is the date that the ratification 5 bonus disappears? 6 MS. McCLAIN: What? 7 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Do you know what that 8 is called? It is called psychological terrorism. 9 That is what you are doing to the membership. To 10 your employees, to your coworkers, that is what that 11 means. 12 MS. McCLAIN: I am sorry that you -- 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I am totally 14 embarrassed. I am totally embarrassed for that. 15 MS. McCLAIN: I am sorry that, you 16 know, you characterize it that way. That is not how 17 we are looking at it. We are looking at it that 18 this is intended to be a short-term incentive. The 19 Company has been very generous in leaving a 20 ratification bonus that is intended to be a 21 short-term incentive for ratification on the table 22 for as long as we have. It is simply, you know, 23 appropriate for us to take a look at that and -- 24 MR. FREDRIKSEN: And terrorize the 25 employees into doing it. Yes, I understand. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 71 1 MS. McCLAIN: I disagree with that. 2 MR. FREDRIKSEN: I hope you disagree 3 with it so strongly that it goes all the way to the 4 core of your being, and I hope that is true for all 5 three of you. And everybody else who is listening 6 to this call and everybody else who reads the 7 transcripts, I hope you are all very sure of that 8 and your conscious is totally sure of it as well. 9 And with that, I don't have anything else to say. 10 If you have anything else to give to us today -- 11 MS. McCLAIN: I don't have anything to 12 give to you today. 13 MR. FREDRIKSEN: Okay. Thank you. 14 MS. McCLAIN: We do have a request that 15 if there are any like no-go dates for you, I assume 16 you would like to meet again. 17 MR. RAGOMO: Yes, we would. 18 MS. McCLAIN: So we have been looking 19 at our dates. We just have to -- we will give that 20 to you. I don't know if you want that today, if you 21 want to end the session and then we can e-mail and 22 agree. 23 MR. FREDRIKSEN: We can do it through 24 e-mail. I don't have my schedule ready right now. 25 We will settle it through e-mail. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 72 1 MS. McCLAIN: Very good. We can do 2 that. 3 MR. RAGOMO: In terms of -- since we do 4 have the final date of June 30. How many full days 5 are you -- we are going to be available any day and 6 every day and all day. And I think Tom will agree 7 to that. But I want to make sure that the Company 8 is going to make themselves readily available, since 9 you are putting -- and I know you don't agree with 10 this statement, JeffeLee, but since you are putting 11 my back against the wall in terms of this drop-dead 12 date of June 30, please, I am asking you that you 13 yourself and Yuk and Josh do the best you can to 14 make yourself available as often and as long as 15 possible for us, because this is something that is 16 it truly is weighing on me, that this is the way 17 that this bargaining is coming through. 18 So just for me, from a personal 19 standpoint, I ask you to try to make yourself 20 readily available as possible, because I believe 21 everybody in this room and my members definitely 22 deserve that, and I think it would be a show of 23 respect and just humanity that we are people at the 24 end of the day. 25 MS. McCLAIN: Yes. Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 73 1 MR. RAGOMO: Just remember that, we are 2 human beings that rely on this, that people have 3 been going through for quite a while here, and you 4 don't have to do it, but I have to look at my 5 members in the face and I have to believe to my core 6 that I am trying for do the best job I possibly can 7 for them and their futures. And there are a lot of 8 young people that are trying for build a career at 9 ExxonMobil and this does nothing. It does nothing 10 to show any value toward anybody. I have got to 11 stop. I am sorry. 12 MS. McCLAIN: We can break for the day 13 I have heard you. I appreciate you sharing with me 14 and sharing your passion. I hope that you see that, 15 you know, I fully am committed. And we will provide 16 you the dates and work together over the next few 17 weeks. 18 MR. RAGOMO: Thank you. 19 MR. FREDRIKSEN: That is the end. Have 20 a good day. 21 MS. McCLAIN: Thank you. 22 (Remote negotiations concluded at 23 3:05 p.m.) 24 25 Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 74 1 2 CERTIFICATE 3 4 I, RITA GARDNER, Notary Public of the 5 State of New Jersey and a Certified Court Reporter, 6 do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and 7 accurate transcript of the remote negotiations as 8 taken stenographically by and before me, to the best 9 of my ability at the time and on the date 10 hereinbefore set forth. 11 I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a 12 relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel of any 13 of the parties to this action, and that I am neither 14 a relative or employee of such attorney or counsel, 15 and that I am not financially interested in the 16 action. 17 18 19 Notary Public of the State of New Jersey 20 21 Dated: April 29, 2021 22 23 24 25 Rita Gardner ~ Court Reporter ~ (908) 319-1195 $ $250,000 [1] - 19:19 $2500 [1] - 26:12 $5,000 [1] - 57:4 ' '18 [1] - 55:14 '19 [3] - 54:7, 55:11, 55:14 '20 [2] - 54:7, 55:11 '21 [1] - 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8:6 non [2] - 5:9, 26:13 non-benefits [1] - 26:13 non-Company [1] - 5:9 Notary [2] - 74:4, 74:19 note [2] - 50:11, 56:11 nothing [18] - 32:24, 33:19, 35:8, 35:9, 35:10, 35:11, 36:10, 36:24, 37:6, 38:11, 38:12, 53:2, 58:16, 61:14, 67:20, 73:10 notification [1] - 19:18 notwithstanding [2] - 19:12, 28:5 Number [2] - 5:7, 9:23 number [10] - 4:14, 6:6, 7:3, 7:16, 7:23, 10:13, 11:8, 22:6, 60:12, 69:8 numerous [1] - 21:7 O objection [1] - 18:17 objectives [2] - 17:6, 17:19 obligated [1] - 18:13 obligation [2] - 15:1, 25:3 obligations [1] - 52:2 observed [1] - 8:25 observing [1] - 8:19 obtaining [1] - 10:9 obvious [1] - 21:17 obviously [1] - 31:3 October [8] - 31:6, 31:11, 38:22, 38:23, 39:4, 39:15, 51:21, 52:4 off-site [17] - 19:16, 28:10, 28:13, 28:15, 28:17, 28:21, 32:12, 34:17, 39:16, 40:13, 40:14, 40:24, 41:3, 43:1, 43:3, 47:24, 48:8 off-siting [1] - 34:3 off-sourcing [1] - 34:3 offer [12] - 27:18, 54:17, 55:9, 61:18, 61:21, 62:5, 65:11, 66:12, 66:23, 67:17, 68:13 offered [1] - 6:10 offering [3] - 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